PostHeaderIcon Report on National Seminar on “Scientific Dating of Ancient Events Before 2000 BC”, published in Puratattva

Institute of Scientific Research on Vedas (I-SERVE, Delhi Chapter) organised a National Seminar on “Scientific Dating of Ancient Events Before 2000 BC” on 30th – 31st July, 2011 in the Indian Institute of Mass Communication auditorium, Aruna Asaf Ali Marg, New JNU Campus, New Delhi. The objective of the seminar was twofold: to ascertain astronomical dating of planetary references in ancient Sanskrit manuscripts by making use of planetarium software and correlating it with archaeological, anthropological, paleobotanical, geological, ecological, oceanographic and remote sensing evidences.

This Seminar was financially supported by Rashtriya Sanskrit Sansthan, Ministry of Human Resource Development and Ministry of Earth Sciences, Govt. of India. It was attended by scholars from the discipline of Sanskrit, astronomy,   archaeology, anthropology, history, geology, ecology, oceanography, space science and students of various universities and academicians as well as other persons from the public and media, were invited to participate.

 His Excellency Dr. A.P.J. Abdul Kalam (Former President of India) blessed the occasion with his venerated presence as Chief Guest and delivered the inaugural address on 30th July (The text of this address is also available at Hon’ble Justice Shri Ashok Bhan, Chairman of National Consumer Disputes Redressal Commission and Shri J. Sircar, Secretary to Govt. of India (Ministry of Culture) were the Guests of Honour. Shri K.V. Krishnamurthy, Chairman of I-SERVE delivered the welcome address. Mrs. Saroj Bala, gave a brief introduction of the subject, clearly stating that astronomical, archaeological, anthropological and ecological research reports have revealed that Aryan invasion theory was a myth based entirely on linguistic guesswork and that indigenous civilisation has been continuously developing in India for last more than 10000 years.

 Dr. A.P.J. Abdul Kalam endorsed the scientific methods of dating of ancient events and emphasized that a mechanism needs to be built to disseminate the knowledge and information generated during the seminar amongst school and college children to generate a shared pride in our rich and ancient most heritage. He made many important recommendations, which include:

  •  Launching research on India’s Epics with at least 100 Ph. Ds with highly talented historical, geological, astronomical and space scientists to ascertain the veracity of history and dates of events in our epics.
  •  The scientific dating of our epics has also to be related to genealogy and with human genome sequences.
  •  The origin and human evolution put forwarded by Prof. Tobias should be related to the events of Indian epics.
  •  The spoken language period as per Prof. Tobias is around 10000 years old and the birth of Rama based on the 9th tithi of Chaitra month and sky view of planetary configurations at the time of birth dates to 10th January in 5114 BC, that is 7125 years back. We need to establish the relationship between the birth of spoken language and the evolution of Valmiki Ramayana.

The highlight of the seminar was the release of the Seminar Memento, a Wall Clock depicting the sky view on 10th January, 5114 BC at 12:25 PM, which also happened to be the shukla paksha navami of Chaitra month i.e. the date of birth of Lord Rama. This sky view matched exactly the planetary configurations given in Valimiki Ramayan (1/18/8, 9). The Memento was dedicated to the memory of late Shri Pushkar Bhatnagar, the original investigator. It was released by Dr. A.P.J. Abdul Kalam.

The first speaker, Shri Ashok Bhatnagar, Former Additional DG. India Meteorological Department, presented a paper on “Astronomical Dating of Planetary References in Rigveda and Epics using Planetarium Software.” He stated that astronomical references in Rigveda represent the sky views of dates belonging to the period from 8000 BC to 4000 BC and those mentioned in Ramayana refer to sky views seen sequentially on dates around 5000 BC. He gave a live presentation on planetarium software and generated pictures of sky view depicting planetary configurations narrated in Valmiki Ramayan. The sky view at the birth of Lord Ram was seen on 10th January 5114 BC and sky views on several dates right from the start of Putra Kameshthi Yajna (15th January, 5115 BC) to start of journey to Lanka (Uttara Phalguni Nakshtra on 19 Sept, 5076 BC) matched exactly the descriptions in Ramayan. This presentation established in an extremely scientific manner that many of the events mentioned in Vedas and Epics are real and these reflect continuous and indigenous development of civilisation in India for last 10000 years.

Shri Kulbhushan Mishra (Indian Archaeological Society, New Delhi) spoke  on the “Origin and Development of Civilization in Indian Subcontinent during last 8000 years: An Archaeological Perspective” and informed that the latest archaeological excavations have revealed large volume of new data which has proved an indigenous origin and development of civilisation in the Indian Subcontinent since 7000 BC. In this regard, Shri Mishra cited some examples such as Mehrgarh, Kot Diji and Nausharo in Indus valley in the northwest; Lothal and Dholavira in the west and Lahuradeva, Jhusi, Tokwa and Hetapatti in Ganga Valley in the east.  The material testimonies of these excavations have shown gradual cultural developments from the 7th -6th millennium BC in the entire region of Indus-Saraswati-Ganga system for a period of almost eight thousand years. Thus archaeology is also supporting the astronomical, ecological and anthropological conclusions that Aryans were originals of India.

Dr. C.M. Nautiyal (Birbal Sahni Institute of Palaeobotany, Lucknow), while speaking on the “Radiometric Dating of Records of Ancient Cultures in India”, discussed the theoretical issues, principles and methods of radiometric dating technique. He further elaborated several C14 dates from recently excavated sites ranging from 8th millennium BC to 2nd millennium BC. Dr. Chanchala Srivastava, spoke on “Archaeobotanical Evidences of Ancient Cultures in Indian Subcontinent” and discussed that the archaeobotanical research on certain cultivated varieties of plants, trees and herbs, which are mentioned in Vedas and Epics, have existed in India continuously for more than 8000-10000 years. She further elucidated that the remains of cultivated rice, wheat and barley have been found belonging to 7000  BC; melon seeds, lemon leaf, pomegranate, coconut and date palm etc relating to 4000 BC; lentils,  millets  and peas etc from 3000 BC; use of reetha, amla and shikakai for making  shampoo  since  2500  BC. She emphasized that there was no abrupt end of ancient Indian civilisation as is normally being taught in schools and colleges.

On 31st July, Dr. J.R. Sharma (Regional Remote Sensing Centre, Jodhpur) was the first to present his paper on “Signatures of Paleo-Rivers and their Networks in North Western India: Inputs from Remote Sensing”. He elaborated that the remote sensing images taken by Indian Space Research Organisation, corroborated by geological reports, have revealed that a mighty river system referred to in Vedas and Epics as Saraswati was in full glory around 6000 BC. The river slowly dried up and almost disappeared around 2000 BC. He highlighted that these conclusions have been drawn by sedimentology, hydrogeology and drilling data and also support the astronomical dates of Vedas and Epics.

The next paper was by Dr Rajiv Nigam (National Institute of Oceanography, Goa), on “Sea level Fluctuations during last 15000 thousand years and their Impact on Human Settlements” who informed about the oceanographic reports on fluctuations of water levels in the oceans have revealed the existence of many coastal archaeological sites, either submerged or now found land locked, dated from 7500 BC onwards, e.g. Hazira, Dholavira, Juni Kuran, Surkotda, Prabhas Patan and Dwarka etc. These supported the historicity and dating of many events mentioned in our Epics.

Prof. V.R. Rao (Department of Anthropology, Delhi University), presented a paper on “Genetic Profile of the People of India during Holocene: Some Inferences” and elaborated the anthropological researches which have established thatDNAdating for Paleolithic continuity starts from 60000 BC. The genome studies during the Holocene have revealed that the genetic profile of humans settled in north, south, east and west of India is the same and has remained the same for the last 11000 years.

Dr. Baldevanand Sagar (Sanskrit Scholar), spoke on “Geographic Evidence of Places and Rivers referred to in Rig Veda and Epics”, discussed about the geographical region of Vedic and later Vedic period. He also highlighted the importance and existence of river Saraswati since several millennia by citing examples from ancient text.

In the valedictory function on 31st July, 2011, Shri K.V. Krishnamurthy, Chairman I-SERVE, delivered the welcome address and Smt. Saroj Bala who is the moving spirit behind this seminar presented the summation of the proceedings. Shri Y.K. Gaiha, IRS (Member, Board for Industrial & Financial Reconstruction) briefed the participants   about the public welfare and business opportunities created by this kind of research and particularly by this National Seminar. Shri Pawan Kumar Bansal, Hon’ble Minister, Ministry of Parliamentary Affairs and Water Resources, who was the Chief Guest, delivered the valedictory address. He appreciated the initiative of scientifically determination of the dates of ancient events, especially the genetic profiling which has the potential of uniting all Indians and information about paleochannels of ancient rivers, like Sarasvati, which can help in harnessing much needed underground water resources. Hon’ble Justice Shri Ashok Bhan, Shri Manbir Singh, Secretary, Ministry of External Affairs and Smt. Poonam Kishore Saxena, Member, Central Board of Direct Taxes, also graced the occasion as Guests of Honour and gave their addresses.

 Based on presentations, the following recommendations were made:

 (i) Ancient history of India, being taught in schools and colleges so for is generally based on linguistic guesswork and religious beliefs/hearsay. There is an urgent need to unearth the evidences of ancient events buried under land and sea through multi-disciplinary scientific research, which should include astronomical dating of planetary references in ancient books by making use of planetarium software.

 (ii) Indian Council of Historical Research (ICHR) when reconstituted by Ministry of HRD to include in the council Astronomers, Oceanographers, Space scientists, Palaeobotanists and Ecologists so that ancient Indian history is rewritten purely on objective and scientific basis. These disciplines were not represented in the past.

 (iii) Considering that latest scientific tools and researches have proved that Vedas and Epics of India refer to several events, the historicity of which is scientifically verifiable; there is need to carry this research to its logical conclusion by launching at least 100 Ph. Ds on the subject by accepting the recommendation of Dr. A.P.J. Abdul Kalam.

 (iv) The presentations made during the Seminar be used to promote tourism in a big way by taking some initiatives which could include: (i) setting up underground museum on site of submerged Dwarka connected through a transparent tube and (ii) package tours to cover places excavated around ancient Saraswati river.

 (v) Remote Sensing images read with literary references, geological and archaeological research reports have revealed a vast network of palaeo-channels of rivers, including that of Saraswati river system. The Ministry of Water Resources may constitute a multidisciplinary team for identifying and harnessing the drinkable water trapped under the dry beds of these rivers.

 (vi) The genome studies presented during the seminar have revealed that humans settled in all parts of India, including North Indians, Dravidians and Tribals, share their genetic profile and had common ancestors since 11000 BP, rather since 55000 BP.  This fact should be widely publicised by Ministry of Culture so that the north-south divide, which got created due to Aryan invasion theory that has now been proved to be untrue, is removed and all Indians have the opportunity to share common pride in having common ancestors.

 (vii) The presentation made revealed that 99.9 percent of Indians do not know about 99 percent of scientific research reports which prove the historicity and antiquity of India’s ancient civilisation, apparently because such reports are not being regularly passed on by the Ministries of Earth Sciences, Culture, Science and Technology to Ministry of HRD and no system is put in place to incorporate such research outcomes in books meant for schools and colleges all over India.

The Seminar concluded with a vote of thanks by Smt. Vinita Surie.


 Kulbhushan Mishra

*Report published in Puratattva, a referred journal of Indian Archaeological Society, vol. 41, pp. 257-260.




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